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Wednesday, July 4, 2012

Conservative Patriots of America: Kish mir en toches!

I recently saw that a person I know had placed something on that person's own Facebook wall that read as follows:
(Name redacted) shared Conservative Patriots of America's photo. If YOU AGREE, give this a "Like" & hit that "Share"!! Take a spin at the checklist pictured. This is the MOST heated conversation we have had on this page thus far. Obviously, this photo strikes-a-cord with MANY Americans, on BOTH sides of our politics, R & D -- CLICK INTO THE PHOTO TO JUMP-IN ON THE THREAD & TELL US WHAT YOU THINK!! IT'S YOUR COUNTRY!! GET ON THAT MODERN-DAY "FRONTLINE"!!
Connect with even MORE Patriots!! Join us here on fb at Conservative Patriots of America" 
blah, blah blah and then had a photo with the following written on it:
ELECTION 2012 IS COMING
HERE IS ALL I WANT
Obama: Gone!
Borders: Closed!
Language: English!
Culture: Constitution, and the Bill of Rights!
Drug Free: Mandatory Drug Screening before Welfare!
No Freebies to: Non-Citizens!
ALSO ----
BALANCED BUDGET!
TAX REFORM!
AND
TERM LIMITS FOR CONGRESS & SENATORS!

Only 86% will send this on, Should be a 100%.
I wanted to scream. I wanted to write a book of a response. Instead I quickly and simply wrote this:
I believe in the freedoms and the opportunities that the United States of America has offered to people throughout the world for over two centuries. I believe our country need to continue to do so with the same open arms it afforded our ancestors. I respect the President of the United States. I truly enjoy cultural diversity and the variety languages and traditions. I oppose mandatory drug testing by the government as I believe it violates the Fourth Amendment to the United States Constitution, the part of the Bill of Rights which guards against unreasonable searches and seizures, along with requiring any warrant to be judicially sanctioned and supported by probable cause. Congress consists of the United States House of Representatives and the United States Senate; The Senate is not a separate entity as implied in the above proclamation. We already have term limits; it is called the ballot box and we exercise that right every two years on members of the House and every six years on members of the Senate. I believe Conservatives in the United States today to be a group of elitists, not very different from the National Socialism that was the ideology of the Nazi Party and Nazi Germany which was a variety of fascism that incorporated biological racism and antisemitism.
I left it at that; but, there really is so much more that could be said in response to the bullshit drivel of the Conservative Patriots of America. Now, mind you, with very rare exceptions, I do not normally use foul language or make personal attacks or name call in my written form of communications, but the crap those idiots and other asswipes that sympathize with them put out, such as the above, make it to my exception list.

I say to the Conservative Patriots of America: Kish mir en toches!

6 comments:

CWMartin said...

I'm truly sorry you think me a nazi, Roland. I thought you were above such labels. You'll have to excuse me, I have some people in the oven.

Roland Hansen said...

CW Martin,

With all due respect, I did not profess you to be a Nazi. What I wrote was: "I believe Conservatives in the United States today to be ..... not very different from the National Socialism that was the ideology of the Nazi Party ...."

That is the perception I have of the beliefs and perspectives put forth of many American Conservatives.

That specific statement of mine, therefore, is a reflection of my opinion on the political belief system of those to whom I referenced, not the individual.

CWMartin said...

Sorry, I was a bit hot headed last night. But, I don't see why that post made anyone seem a nazi. Wanting Obama gone is a simple choice, just like a million others. Wanting the borders closed and the constitution upheld wouldn't be the big issue if it wasn't for current-and past- administrations blatent disregard for enforcing the laws. Drug testing wouldn't be an issue if not for the connection between those who live the drug life and those who want the government to pay for their lifestyle. Another case of a few bad apples spoiling things for everyone. Wanting the government to focus on our citizens first just makes sense. And I do not think the reforms suggested under "also" makes anyone a nazi, or even an elitist. I just lost a 10-an-hr job that I had for twenty years, so I don't think you can stretch any definition of elitist to include me. Am I racist? Not hardly. I just don't think that it's unreasonable for every immigrant to do their level best to assure their legality of presence, for every able-bodied person to do their best to be a contributing member of society, and for every citizen to have ID available with which to carry out their participation in government. Those beliefs mark me as a conservative, just as the beliefs in that Facebook post do for the poster. But you call "me" a Nazi for them, and I call "you" a communist for opposing them. Where does it stop if thats the level? Where does this country go if every time my like-minded people speak out for rule of law, we're compared to storm troopers?

Brian Maxson said...

You know, CW, I wholeheartedly agree with 83% of your comment.

And I am not a conservative by any stretch.

My issue I see in my opinion is your concern about upholding the constitution when it differs now from when it was written.

I'm all about back then when Americans were afforded their rights as stated on that document, not the rights as they are disfigured by legalities and loopholes in today's form.

But everything else I agree with.

Brian Schwartz said...

I'm a conservative and I'm not a Nazi. Disagreeing with the current president or agreeing with the remarks you quoted do not make a Nazi.

To disagree with the government and feeling free to express those disagreements is entirely American.

I don't agree with closed borders. I do agree with doing all we can to slow the flow of illegal immigrants.

I do not agree with drug testing for welfare recipients for the same reasons you do.

I respect the president, but I don't like him or his policies.

I am an American.

Roland Hansen said...

Brian Schwartz,

I did not call you a Nazi; nor did I call anyone a Nazi.

What I wrote was this: "I believe Conservatives in the United States today to be a group of elitists, not very different from the National Socialism that was the ideology of the Nazi Party and Nazi Germany which was a variety of fascism that incorporated biological racism and antisemitism."

Now, if you assign the label "Nazi" to yourself, that is your prerogative. Just bear in mind that I simply stated that Conservatives in the United States today seem to me to be not very different from the National Socialism that was the ideology of the Nazi Party. That is a reflection of my opinion on the political belief system of those to whom I referenced, not the individual.