Oh! You are probably wondering what this is all about. Okay, I will let you in on it. Well, you see, earlier this evening, I had a chance encounter with Fred LeFebvre on the Facebook wall of Mark Dansack. It turned out to be very interesting, indeed. It started when Mark Dansack wrote an "update status" as to what was on his mind making a comment about tax cuts for the wealthy. In what followed, Fred LeFebvre of 1370 WSPD-AM Radio showed his true colors of RUDE and CRUDE.
Tell you what, rather than try to summarize what transpired, you can read it yourself. I have copied the Facebook exchange between Mark Dansack, Fred LeFebvre, and me word for word, and I pasted it below:
Mark Dansack Tax cuts for all the wealthy. They're bound to create jobs for all of us ! Hasn't this been tried for the last 10 years ? The only jobs being created are out of the country. The definition of insanity is to keep trying the same thing and expecting different results.
Fred Lefebvre: It appears that you are calling Pres. Obama insane.
Roland Hansen: Why was it necessary or appropriate as a follow up to the initial comment for Fred Lefebvre to make that snide comment about the President? Does he always have to just be one of the low denizens of Obama Bashers? Bash, bash, bash - it gets tiring, boring, and humdrum. The bottom line is that the historical evidence has demonstrated tax cuts for the richest of the richest has not spurred any jobs - period - none. nada, zilch. If I am mistaken, please cite the raw data (not opinion) proving a positive correlation between tax cuts and job creation.
Mark Dansack: Fred's a one trick pony re: Obama. Barack could cure cancer and Fred would complaiin he didn't do it fast enough. Something tells me that Fred doesn't like Obama.
Fred Lefebvre: Did I bash the POTUS? I simply commented on mark's observation about insanity being doing the same thing and expecting different results.
Fred Lefebvre: If you two don't like the posts you can always go somewhere else. I believe we've raised taxes a number of times over the years also and without the attendant job growth.
Mark Dansack: At least you can't hang up on me on Facebook, Fred.
Fred Lefebvre: i wouldn't hang up on you on air either mark if you had the balls to call
Mark Dansack: I try to call when you guys have a guest on, and am told to call back after the guests off the air. That doesn't really give us a chance to challenge what your guest is saying, does it ?
Fred Lefebvre: no it doesn't. the guest isn't there to answer your questions, he's there to answer mine.
Mark Dansack: no one has all the questions or all the answers.
Roland Hansen: Re: Fred Lefebvre - http://rolandhansencommentary.blogspot.com/2007/08/fred-lefebvre-disappearing-act.html Roland Hansen Commentary: Fred LeFebvre: The Disappearing Act
Mark Dansack: sometimes a discussion on certain programs closely resembles a diatribe ?
Fred Lefebvre: oh my god roland you are going back years for that one aren't you? you were as unimportant to me then as you are now
Roland Hansen: @ Fred - ROTFLMAO
Fred Lefebvre: i guess the real question is not should we raise taxes then, but how much should the government be allowed to take from the people who work for it.
Roland Hansen: @ Fred - DUH
Fred Lefebvre: and how much is that mark and roland? how much of my money as a percentage should the government be allowed to take?
Roland Hansen: @ Fred - Yahn!
Mark Dansack: I'd rather have middle class Americans have more $$ in their pockets. At least they might spend a little to spur the economy, although so many products are made outside the country, I'm not sure we would see any job growth beyond retail jobs.
Roland Hansen: Oh, jeesh, my "Yahn" comment up there was really a "yawn." In my humble opinion, Fred Lefebvre sure has demonstrated a true lack of professionalism and a total lack of civility. His comments here directed at me in a belittling manner are reprehensible, but do indeed show his true character -- you know - the one he tried to cover up in his entry on that blog entry to which I linked. Go ahead, take a look at it and you will see for yourself that I write the truth.
*** UPDATE AS SEPTEMBER 20, 2011:
Apparently I wrote and published this blog entry a little bit too early because there was more. Here is what was posted on that same exchange after that last comment above:
Fred Lefebvre: Roland you are the Ed Emery of Facebook. You really think anyone cares whether or not I returned a call to some self important blogger 4 years ago? Isn't there a link to something your wife wrote that we could be pointed to also.
Mark Dansack: My page is not to be used for personal insults. I welcome a healthy discussion of the issues at hand and honest respectful disagreement. It's what has made our country great. Thanks
Judy Rosenberg Hansen: "Do tell Fred, what was it I wrote about that you are referring to?"
Dave Westrick: "Wow, bringing a guys' wife into it, how low can you go, Oh never mind it's Fred. Trollin along Bottom feeding fred."What do you think? Are the words and actions of Fred LeFebvre an appropriate display for a person holding an on-the-air employment position with 1370 WSPD-AM Radio?
***Incidentally, there was no further dialogue on that message thread because Fred LeFebvre chose to unfriend (defriend) me (and Mark Dansack) on FaceBook.
Postscript: There are some very interesting, if not intelligent, comments over on the SwampBubbles message thread "Who Is Fred LeFebvre, Anyway?" - take a look, it is funny stuff in its own sick convoluted way.
4 comments:
Sorry...I don't see a problem. There's an old adage about the media (back when newspapers were important): Don't pick fights with people who buy ink by the 55 gallon drum.
Roland,
I consider Fred a friend, as I do you. Reading the transcript, I see a number of interpretations; and the potential for misinterpretation of irony and sarcasm typical in texting exchanges.
There is obviously some history behind all of this however, that not having been privy to, leaves some of the subtext invisible.
All of that being said, I would still be interested in listening to a discussion of issues between two people with strong opinions and a good bit of knowledge about the ins and outs of Toledo politics.
Over at the e-bulletin board of SwampBubbles from Fred LeFebvre:
"SUBMITTED BY FRED ON MON, 2011-09-26 16:07.
Who is Fred LeFebvre and why does Roland Hansen care?"
Another good one over at the e-bulletin board of SwampBubbles from Fred LeFebvre:
SUBMITTED BY FRED ON SAT, 2011-10-01 16:45.
".... Do you believe that since people didn't come to your blog to see what you said about me that coming here would get you the attention you so desperately seek? You are as unimportant to most of us as you are to the local politicians who long ago left you out in the cold. ...."
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